An amazing conversation between these to lawyercrats. They are complaining that people are not up on arms about the Bush administration as very disappointing. People should be outraged. But they don't take this as evidence that the system is working, that people are aware of what was done and have simply concluded that the actions the administration took were, if not justified, at least understandable given the exigent. Being a crytocrat means never having to defer to the judgment of your fellow citizens. Of course they know the real reason why their fellow citizens are not up in arms over what the Bush administration did in the first years after 9/11. The acceptance of the Bush administration's wiretapping policies is evidence of--drum roll please--racism.
One thing that is rather annoying about the conversation is that they never go into the issue of whether FISA's requirement is absolute. After all, the Clinton administration placed wiretaps on Aldrich Ames without going to FISA. Shouldn't he, then, have been impeached?
Points out that about 150,000 people have been murdered since 9/11 and yet no one says we should be at war against murder? Why doesn't someone say we have to suspend the Constitution over that? He also mentions Madison's quote that no society can have peace and perpetual war.
He argues that we can't be at war since we are not fighting a nation state. Since they are not a nation state then we are fighting criminals. Calling them fighters or warriors gives them too much dignity. Then again, calling them criminals is an insult to perfectly respectable criminals.
He argues that the reason the Congress is not impeaching Bush is because they are afraid it will come out that they approved of most of these things at the time they occurred.
Now he calls the war in Afghanistan a folly because these people don't have a "crumb" of democracy in their DNA. Lovely.
One thing that is rather annoying about the conversation is that they never go into the issue of whether FISA's requirement is absolute. After all, the Clinton administration placed wiretaps on Aldrich Ames without going to FISA. Shouldn't he, then, have been impeached?
Points out that about 150,000 people have been murdered since 9/11 and yet no one says we should be at war against murder? Why doesn't someone say we have to suspend the Constitution over that? He also mentions Madison's quote that no society can have peace and perpetual war.
He argues that we can't be at war since we are not fighting a nation state. Since they are not a nation state then we are fighting criminals. Calling them fighters or warriors gives them too much dignity. Then again, calling them criminals is an insult to perfectly respectable criminals.
He argues that the reason the Congress is not impeaching Bush is because they are afraid it will come out that they approved of most of these things at the time they occurred.
Now he calls the war in Afghanistan a folly because these people don't have a "crumb" of democracy in their DNA. Lovely.
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